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		<title>By: Paul Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.providentplan.com/2275/wake-up-from-the-american-dream/#comment-14868</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Mom! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Mom! <img src='http://www.providentplan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Peggy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great post. I really enjoy reading your articles.  Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great post. I really enjoy reading your articles.  Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Finance Blog Carnival</title>
		<link>http://www.providentplan.com/2275/wake-up-from-the-american-dream/#comment-8980</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Forgiveness for Ministers or Pastors posted at The Young Pastor&#8217;s Wife.Paul Williams presents Wake Up from the American Dream posted at Provident Planning, saying, &#8220;Are you sleepwalking through the American Dream? Have [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Forgiveness for Ministers or Pastors posted at The Young Pastor&#8217;s Wife.Paul Williams presents Wake Up from the American Dream posted at Provident Planning, saying, &#8220;Are you sleepwalking through the American Dream? Have [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Financial Lessons from FIFA World Cup Final 2010 &#124; Best Personal Finance Articles &#124; Best of Money Carnival #59</title>
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		<dc:creator>Financial Lessons from FIFA World Cup Final 2010 &#124; Best Personal Finance Articles &#124; Best of Money Carnival #59</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 09:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How To Survive A Job Loss: Next Steps? posted at The Digerati Life.   Paul Williams, presenting Wake Up from the American Dream posted at Provident [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kevin@OutOfYourRut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin@OutOfYourRut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 18:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul - &quot;I think we tend to forget that the many of the promises we read in the Old Testament were specifically to the Israelites during their time in Israel.&quot; AMEN!  I think Christians often look to the OT and substitute America for Israel, forgetting that Jesus ushered in a whole new way that went out to Gentile and Jew alike.  To a large degree, we&#039;re floating on the waves of a life without definite structure, and that&#039;s where faith comes in. Trusting that God will bring us safely to safe shores, but that the ultimate safe shore isn&#039;t of this world.

Jeff - A Christian can feel spiritual fulfillment in the face of worldly disaster, but that doesn&#039;t mean we&#039;re immune to the disaster.  We straddle the realms of the spiritual and the physical, and we&#039;re pulled by both.  We&#039;re never completely divorced from either and hence the perception of hypocrisy by non-believers.  

The Christian walk is a journey, not a destination, and we never reach that destination in this life, but God honors our faith-however imperfect-along the way.  It&#039;s his mercy, and not our perfection upon which our salvation rests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul &#8211; &#8220;I think we tend to forget that the many of the promises we read in the Old Testament were specifically to the Israelites during their time in Israel.&#8221; AMEN!  I think Christians often look to the OT and substitute America for Israel, forgetting that Jesus ushered in a whole new way that went out to Gentile and Jew alike.  To a large degree, we&#8217;re floating on the waves of a life without definite structure, and that&#8217;s where faith comes in. Trusting that God will bring us safely to safe shores, but that the ultimate safe shore isn&#8217;t of this world.</p>
<p>Jeff &#8211; A Christian can feel spiritual fulfillment in the face of worldly disaster, but that doesn&#8217;t mean we&#8217;re immune to the disaster.  We straddle the realms of the spiritual and the physical, and we&#8217;re pulled by both.  We&#8217;re never completely divorced from either and hence the perception of hypocrisy by non-believers.  </p>
<p>The Christian walk is a journey, not a destination, and we never reach that destination in this life, but God honors our faith-however imperfect-along the way.  It&#8217;s his mercy, and not our perfection upon which our salvation rests.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 18:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment, Jeff.

I agree that this isn&#039;t solely a Christian problem.  But I write mostly for a Christian audience, so I&#039;m speaking directly to their situation.  It&#039;s futile for anyone (Christian or not) to look for fulfillment in material things.

As far as Christians not being happy, I think it&#039;s important to remember that even after you accept Christ you are still a work in progress.  Yes, we must strive to attain perfection, but we must acknowledge the fact that we will not reach perfection in this life.  Christians need to be living lives that show the evidence of their salvation and of God&#039;s love working through them.  But non-Christians need to realize that Christians are still humans.  They will make mistakes.  They will never be perfect as God is perfect.  That is why there are unhappy Christians and &quot;sinful&quot; Christians.  We have been freed from the consequences of sin, but we must still struggle against sinning in this life.

Finally, I just want to point out that going to church services every week doesn&#039;t make you a Christian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment, Jeff.</p>
<p>I agree that this isn&#8217;t solely a Christian problem.  But I write mostly for a Christian audience, so I&#8217;m speaking directly to their situation.  It&#8217;s futile for anyone (Christian or not) to look for fulfillment in material things.</p>
<p>As far as Christians not being happy, I think it&#8217;s important to remember that even after you accept Christ you are still a work in progress.  Yes, we must strive to attain perfection, but we must acknowledge the fact that we will not reach perfection in this life.  Christians need to be living lives that show the evidence of their salvation and of God&#8217;s love working through them.  But non-Christians need to realize that Christians are still humans.  They will make mistakes.  They will never be perfect as God is perfect.  That is why there are unhappy Christians and &#8220;sinful&#8221; Christians.  We have been freed from the consequences of sin, but we must still struggle against sinning in this life.</p>
<p>Finally, I just want to point out that going to church services every week doesn&#8217;t make you a Christian.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff @ sustainablelifeblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff @ sustainablelifeblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 18:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t think this needs to be a soley christian problem - I think everyone is just seeking fulfillment of SOME SORT for something, and have gotten the idea that they can find fulfillment of the type that they are seeking through material goods.  They can&#039;t, it&#039;s just not that simple.  You have to truly know yourself to find fulfillment, and it makes me wonder why Christians dont have fulfillment.  If they go to services every week and live like the bible says, shouldn&#039;t they be happy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t think this needs to be a soley christian problem &#8211; I think everyone is just seeking fulfillment of SOME SORT for something, and have gotten the idea that they can find fulfillment of the type that they are seeking through material goods.  They can&#8217;t, it&#8217;s just not that simple.  You have to truly know yourself to find fulfillment, and it makes me wonder why Christians dont have fulfillment.  If they go to services every week and live like the bible says, shouldn&#8217;t they be happy?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 18:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toss away, Kevin!  That&#039;s partly the point of this post.

I agree with your points.  There have been far too many great and devoted Christians who were quite poor to believe that material wealth is evidence of God&#039;s favor.  And this point is further reinforced by the fact that there are far too many wealthy people who don&#039;t know God at all.  I think we tend to forget that the many of the promises we read in the Old Testament were specifically to the Israelites during their time in Israel.  We&#039;d do better to study Jesus&#039; promise to us that we will have troubles and adversity in this world - but we don&#039;t need to fear because He has overcome the world!

In my opinion, the entitlement mindset is crippling Americans.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toss away, Kevin!  That&#8217;s partly the point of this post.</p>
<p>I agree with your points.  There have been far too many great and devoted Christians who were quite poor to believe that material wealth is evidence of God&#8217;s favor.  And this point is further reinforced by the fact that there are far too many wealthy people who don&#8217;t know God at all.  I think we tend to forget that the many of the promises we read in the Old Testament were specifically to the Israelites during their time in Israel.  We&#8217;d do better to study Jesus&#8217; promise to us that we will have troubles and adversity in this world &#8211; but we don&#8217;t need to fear because He has overcome the world!</p>
<p>In my opinion, the entitlement mindset is crippling Americans.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your thoughts!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin@OutOfYourRut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin@OutOfYourRut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 15:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I toss a couple of handgrenades into the thread?

The American Dream--in it&#039;s current material-wealth- is-everything perversion--has sucked a lot of Christians into a soft version of the prosperity gospel. Not the blatant &quot;if you give $10 to God, he&#039;ll bless you with $100&quot;, but the Old Testament version where we might be tempted to believe that God is blessing our piousness with material wealth--ie, material wealth is evidence of God&#039;s favor upon us. 

The other is the way it&#039;s corrupted the secular interpretation.  If the American Dream is all about the quest to accumulate more possessions, where do integrity, freedom and justice fit in?  Should we wonder why our freedoms are disappearing when we&#039;re singularly consumed by the &quot;right&quot; to own a home or the &quot;right&quot; to a high priced college education for our kids?

When money (and what it buys) is the measure of all things, a whole bunch of good things are withering on the vine...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I toss a couple of handgrenades into the thread?</p>
<p>The American Dream&#8211;in it&#8217;s current material-wealth- is-everything perversion&#8211;has sucked a lot of Christians into a soft version of the prosperity gospel. Not the blatant &#8220;if you give $10 to God, he&#8217;ll bless you with $100&#8243;, but the Old Testament version where we might be tempted to believe that God is blessing our piousness with material wealth&#8211;ie, material wealth is evidence of God&#8217;s favor upon us. </p>
<p>The other is the way it&#8217;s corrupted the secular interpretation.  If the American Dream is all about the quest to accumulate more possessions, where do integrity, freedom and justice fit in?  Should we wonder why our freedoms are disappearing when we&#8217;re singularly consumed by the &#8220;right&#8221; to own a home or the &#8220;right&#8221; to a high priced college education for our kids?</p>
<p>When money (and what it buys) is the measure of all things, a whole bunch of good things are withering on the vine&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 19:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your encouraging words, Khaleef!

I&#039;m often guilty of that type of thinking as well.  But I tend to think of Jesus&#039; warning to take care of the log in your own eye first.  This doesn&#039;t mean we shouldn&#039;t admonish, encourage, and teach other Christians as we learn to follow Jesus better.  But it does mean that we should carefully examine ourselves first and be cautious before quickly condemning others who don&#039;t measure up to our standards (as opposed to God&#039;s standards).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your encouraging words, Khaleef!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m often guilty of that type of thinking as well.  But I tend to think of Jesus&#8217; warning to take care of the log in your own eye first.  This doesn&#8217;t mean we shouldn&#8217;t admonish, encourage, and teach other Christians as we learn to follow Jesus better.  But it does mean that we should carefully examine ourselves first and be cautious before quickly condemning others who don&#8217;t measure up to our standards (as opposed to God&#8217;s standards).</p>
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