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		<title>By: OutOfYourRut’s First Ever Friday Personal Finance Round Up &#171; OutOfYourRut.com</title>
		<link>http://www.providentplan.com/1319/raising-a-cow-for-beef-month-5/#comment-6212</link>
		<dc:creator>OutOfYourRut’s First Ever Friday Personal Finance Round Up &#171; OutOfYourRut.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and costs of raising “Bambi” the calf in Raising a Cow for Beef: Month 6 and it’s predecessor Raising a Cow for Beef: Month 5. Title aside, there’s an even more compelling reason he and his wife have taken on this project, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and costs of raising “Bambi” the calf in Raising a Cow for Beef: Month 6 and it’s predecessor Raising a Cow for Beef: Month 5. Title aside, there’s an even more compelling reason he and his wife have taken on this project, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.providentplan.com/1319/raising-a-cow-for-beef-month-5/#comment-6193</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahaha, exactly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahaha, exactly!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin@OutOfYourRut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin@OutOfYourRut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Non-farm people just have a hard time understanding that because they view all animals as companions, friends – not to be eaten.&quot;

Can we guess that TV has something to do with that?  The animals even talk on TV, how could they not be human??? ;-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Non-farm people just have a hard time understanding that because they view all animals as companions, friends – not to be eaten.&#8221;</p>
<p>Can we guess that TV has something to do with that?  The animals even talk on TV, how could they not be human??? <img src='http://www.providentplan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
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		<title>By: Paul Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.providentplan.com/1319/raising-a-cow-for-beef-month-5/#comment-6190</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven &amp; Debra and Kevin,

We do view &quot;Bambi&quot; as &quot;hamburger&quot; (or preferably, steak!), and we have since we got him.  And after the weeks of going out to feed him in the morning in this snow and wind, I won&#039;t be disappointed when he&#039;s gone!!!  :)

For most farm people, animals are viewed not as companions but cuisine.  Animals are either for working, producing food, or becoming food.  Sure you&#039;ll have some &quot;pets&quot;, but you&#039;ll generally have no problem sending them away to the butcher or eating them.

Non-farm people just have a hard time understanding that because they view all animals as companions, friends - not to be eaten.  This has led to overpopulation of horses in the U.S. and the detriment of horses who are no longer wanted.  (It&#039;s illegal to kill or butcher a horse as far as I know.  This is unique to the U.S.  Horse is a normal food in many European countries.)

This project probably isn&#039;t so much about sustainability as it is about having a learning experience and identifying with the people in our community.  Most people in my church are farmers, so it gives me something to talk with them about.  Plus, my wife and I like to eat beef.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven &#038; Debra and Kevin,</p>
<p>We do view &#8220;Bambi&#8221; as &#8220;hamburger&#8221; (or preferably, steak!), and we have since we got him.  And after the weeks of going out to feed him in the morning in this snow and wind, I won&#8217;t be disappointed when he&#8217;s gone!!!  <img src='http://www.providentplan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>For most farm people, animals are viewed not as companions but cuisine.  Animals are either for working, producing food, or becoming food.  Sure you&#8217;ll have some &#8220;pets&#8221;, but you&#8217;ll generally have no problem sending them away to the butcher or eating them.</p>
<p>Non-farm people just have a hard time understanding that because they view all animals as companions, friends &#8211; not to be eaten.  This has led to overpopulation of horses in the U.S. and the detriment of horses who are no longer wanted.  (It&#8217;s illegal to kill or butcher a horse as far as I know.  This is unique to the U.S.  Horse is a normal food in many European countries.)</p>
<p>This project probably isn&#8217;t so much about sustainability as it is about having a learning experience and identifying with the people in our community.  Most people in my church are farmers, so it gives me something to talk with them about.  Plus, my wife and I like to eat beef.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin@OutOfYourRut</title>
		<link>http://www.providentplan.com/1319/raising-a-cow-for-beef-month-5/#comment-6189</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin@OutOfYourRut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>S&amp;D, you raise a good point about sustainability. My question to Paul comes from my life as a died-in-the-wool suburbanite.  Any animal you raise automatically becomes &quot;bambi&quot;!  That would be a real disadvantage for me in a true survival situation.

A friend of mine married an Illinois farm girl, and she said you have a different perspective when you grow up on a farm and know what the animals&#039; purpose is.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>S&amp;D, you raise a good point about sustainability. My question to Paul comes from my life as a died-in-the-wool suburbanite.  Any animal you raise automatically becomes &#8220;bambi&#8221;!  That would be a real disadvantage for me in a true survival situation.</p>
<p>A friend of mine married an Illinois farm girl, and she said you have a different perspective when you grow up on a farm and know what the animals&#8217; purpose is.<br />
.-= Kevin@OutOfYourRut´s last blog ..<a href="http://outofyourrut.com/blog/2010/02/21/good-retirement-planning-should-include-a-low-costdebt-free-lifestyle/">Good Retirement Planning Should Include a Low Cost/Debt Free Lifestyle</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven and Debra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven and Debra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something that might help is to call him &quot;hamburger&quot; from the very beginning rather than &quot;Bambi.&quot;  It might help keep things in perspective and prevent becoming too overly attached.

Knowing where your food comes from and sustainability is becoming increasingly important these days and may even be more important than consideration of cost.  We admire what you are undertaking.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something that might help is to call him &#8220;hamburger&#8221; from the very beginning rather than &#8220;Bambi.&#8221;  It might help keep things in perspective and prevent becoming too overly attached.</p>
<p>Knowing where your food comes from and sustainability is becoming increasingly important these days and may even be more important than consideration of cost.  We admire what you are undertaking.<br />
.-= Steven and Debra´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheEndTimesHoax/~3/Knw-NObLbmI/are-you-hoarder-are-you-sure-part-iv-of_09.html">Are YOU a Hoarder? Are You Sure? (Part IV of a Four Part Series)</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.providentplan.com/1319/raising-a-cow-for-beef-month-5/#comment-6023</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Kevin.  We&#039;ve been asked that question several times since we got him, and I haven&#039;t noticed any attachment developing yet.  We don&#039;t spend much time with him, and I guess I just don&#039;t get that attached.  Plus, it&#039;s not like he lays in our lap while we watch TV or anything.  :)  I&#039;m confident I won&#039;t have any problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Kevin.  We&#8217;ve been asked that question several times since we got him, and I haven&#8217;t noticed any attachment developing yet.  We don&#8217;t spend much time with him, and I guess I just don&#8217;t get that attached.  Plus, it&#8217;s not like he lays in our lap while we watch TV or anything.  <img src='http://www.providentplan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I&#8217;m confident I won&#8217;t have any problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin@OutOfYourRut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin@OutOfYourRut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, this has nothing to do with the economics of raising the cow for beef, but are you and your wife at all worried that you&#039;ll grow attached to him and be unable to do the deed when the time comes?

It seems it would be one thing to raise cattle (plural) for meat, and another to raise just one.  After a time, he&#039;d become like a pet who you nurtured from birth.  Any conflicts with that???
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, this has nothing to do with the economics of raising the cow for beef, but are you and your wife at all worried that you&#8217;ll grow attached to him and be unable to do the deed when the time comes?</p>
<p>It seems it would be one thing to raise cattle (plural) for meat, and another to raise just one.  After a time, he&#8217;d become like a pet who you nurtured from birth.  Any conflicts with that???<br />
.-= Kevin@OutOfYourRut´s last blog ..<a href="http://outofyourrut.com/blog/2010/01/31/social-media-how-do-you-find-friends-and-followers/">Social Media – How Do You Find Friends and Followers?</a> =-.</p>
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